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 Post subject: Random data
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:11 pm 
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I'm new the TSM, and was just playing around and generated some random numbers and applied kelly (eg. Evens expected win 50% of time), and it turns anything it generates into a profit. I assume I'm overlooking something here, and I always thought Kelly was based on exploiting perceived value, so what's happening? Can Kelly really make money from noise? I need to know I can trust it before I apply it to my data.

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Paul


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:48 am 
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Could be something wrong.
Kelly does not work on my machine at all and never has.


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Here's what I do:

Generate random data (4000 bets, odds 2, win rate 50%)
I set the advanced settings to Min odds 1.01, max odds 4, average odds 2
Kelly Settings: Bank 100, Divisor 2, win rate 50%

In this particular case is says longest losing run 10, longest winning run 9, average odds 2, win rate 49.85%

I go to Graph and see level stakes which is a random each time (loses about 20 points), but Kelly is a strong and steady climber showing about 9000 points!


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 Post subject: Kelly
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:10 pm 
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Set two of your filters to the following
<= 2
and
2 >

Now view your results with these filters applied. You should find that there are no bets placed at all for odds uinder 2. For odds over 2 out of 4000 you should have around 1300 bets made. Because the odds range from 2 - 4 the level stakes profit is around 600 and the kelly profit huge !


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